Is Carmine + Archie stronger together? Three Florian teams through six sync moves

By SciPocket · October 17, 2026

Which contributes more to a team’s total damage: support that extends EX Grassy Terrain, or the offensive support another sync pair provides? And when can a team using both Carmine and Archie overtake the other two teams in cumulative damage? I wanted to find out, so I compared three teams built around Florian. This article tracks their progress over time using a cumulative firepower index.

The three teams

• Combined: Carmine + Archie + Florian
• Carmine team: Carmine + Florian + Sygna Suit Ball Guy
• Archie team: Archie + Florian + Brendan (Champion)

Florian is Florian (Anniversary 2026) & Ogerpon; Archie is Archie (Fall 2026) & Wo-Chien.

One cycle is 19 seconds; stop at the sixth sync move

We estimate one cycle—three allied actions plus one enemy action—as 19 seconds, with 4.75 seconds per action. The model places one enemy action after three allied actions and pauses the clock during sync animations. These are estimates, not measured timings.

We compare cumulative firepower and elapsed time from battle start through the sixth sync move. Countdown reduction, setup actions, and Max Moves change the action count and time needed by each team.

Every team uses a sync move as soon as it becomes available; the search chooses who uses it. We include all six sync moves and the attacks between them, then stop immediately after the sixth sync move. Routes that indefinitely delay syncing to fit in more regular attacks are excluded.

The metric is the firepower index accumulated through the sixth sync move. Reaching that point faster through countdown reduction does not automatically mean a higher cumulative index.Read the firepower figures alongside elapsed time.

Shared settings

• All sync pairs: move level 3, 6★ EX and EX roles enabled, no sync grids, no Superawakening, and zero starting sync buffs.
• Three Grass-weak opponents. Non-Grass attacks still count as actions and apply their effects, but contribute zero to the index.
• Each sync pair gets one regular action per cycle. Sync moves are separate. Max Moves take time but do not advance the regular sync countdown by one.
• Normal field duration is 50 seconds plus 10 seconds per extension rank. The extra 50 seconds on the relevant Field EX role setup is tracked separately from the extra 30 seconds when reapplying the same field while its EX version is active.
• Routes relying on self-damage or fainting, enemy attacks, gauge shortages, survival, and numerical healing value are excluded. Circle durations are also outside this clock model.

These figures are provisional. Florian’s buddy-move power scaling with Grass Type Rebuff and the shared power increase for moves matching a Tera Type are fixed at ×1. Some of Brendan’s weather-dependent power increases are also omitted. Defense debuffs are not converted into actual damage. These figures are not actual battle damage, DPS, proven maximum firepower, or a definitive team ranking.

Elapsed time and cumulative firepower for three teams

Reference tables: through the sixth sync move

These are action sequences found with the sixth sync move as the endpoint. Results depend on buddy-move refreshes after syncing, limited Grassy Terrain uses, each support’s first sync move and sync buffs, and terrain reapplication after expiry.

Firepower in each sync interval

The first interval runs from battle start through the first sync move. Each later interval starts after the preceding sync and includes the next sync move’s damage. These values split the same sequence optimized for six sync moves; they are not separately optimized for each earlier endpoint.

Cumulative index and elapsed time at each sync move

Inspect action order and field expiry times

Florian’s buddy move refreshes after an ally syncs. Grassy Terrain setup and countdown reduction at that timing, however, require remaining uses of Grassy Terrain. We track buddy-move refreshes separately from terrain-use consumption, and apply Carmine’s post-sync boosts and Florian’s boosts on allied attacks to subsequent attacks.

Carmine + Archie + Florian

Carmine + Florian + Sygna Suit Ball Guy

Archie + Florian + Brendan (Champion)

What this comparison can tell us

The same number of sync moves does not imply the same elapsed time or number of regular attacks. In some cases, using less countdown reduction allows more regular attacks and a higher cumulative index. Comparing damage per second or performance within a time limit requires a separate comparison with the same time cutoff.

Carmine’s healing and defensive support receive no points in this index. This firepower comparison alone cannot establish the combined team’s value in actual battles.

For each team, we varied the move order and the sync-move user, then selected the sequence with the highest cumulative firepower index through the sixth sync move among those tested. We did not examine every possible sequence, so stronger ones may remain. We checked that the selected sequences have consistent move-use limits, countdown values, elapsed times, and firepower totals.

Related tool

• Related: comparing separate Carmine and Archie teams
• Official: Florian’s buddy-move refresh, Grassy Terrain use consumption, and Terastallization
• Official: Sync Terastallization and the power increase for matching-type moves

The longer calculation used for this article is a separate research model. Its evaluation window differs from the public calculator’s standard window.